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The biggest load of shit I have seen today.

You've got to be kidding me. When I was young, I didn't have enough knowledge to grasp those concepts. Those scenes didn't even phase me.

I swear, people over-analyze the media and entertainment completely.


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In response to AlexINTJ At 12:25 am RetroAesthetic Said :
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Not as nearly as bold as Nemo.



rofl.
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At 12:17 am xcarolinachaos Said :
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what the fuck?
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In response to stitchchick92 At 11:19 pm AlexINTJ Said :
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They're going after Winnie the Pooh? That's bold.
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In response to 500nets At 11:18 pm AlexINTJ Said :
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In my opinion I find a bit of a flaw with something so basely cut, but such an assessment obviously depends on the values and priorities of the person. If I tried to explain my opinion on the issue it would end up as a 20 page essay and remain not entirely clear. I see nothing wrong with that idea, exactly, but I can't concur or settle with it. If I did, I'd personally be a very depressed person.
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At 11:05 pm stitchchick92 Said :
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This is hilarious!

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In response to AlexINTJ At 10:59 pm stitchchick92 Said :
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They left out the part about Hercules killing Megera and their kids.
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At 10:33 pm 500nets Said :
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whats wrong with strength and dominance in men and beauty in women being the desired goal?, its survival of the species
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At 10:14 pm AlexINTJ Said :
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would have protected*
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In response to rstegbauer At 10:11 pm AlexINTJ Said :
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Hercules – I haven’t seen that in 10 years. From what I can recall they modernized it, gave it a bit of satire? Again I think both forms of sexism were in the movie – male strength and weak women using their sexuality. But you also have to take into account the mythology itself. If you turned it into something politically correct and downplayed the gender roles…no, they could have fixed the female a bit, since that wasn’t really apart of the original mythology. From what I remember the young Hercules was mocked and ridiculed for his excessive strength, not revered for it which goes against the sexism model. In that case I think the main female, if she had been changed would protected much of the movie in regards to the scrutiny of male/female sexism.

I would like to know, since he lost his strength at the end if he used intelligence and common sense to defeat his foe. I think he did, something about tripping him? If so, I would note that the movie was self conscious about its portrayal of men. But again, this is a sloppy opinion since I only recall bits and pieces of the film.
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In response to AlexINTJ At 10:02 pm rstegbauer Said :
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what do you think of hercules.
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At 09:59 pm AlexINTJ Said :
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I’ll agree that Cinderella’s sexism would come from being saved from an unpleasant circumstance by someone else in a more advantageous position – or more to the point, a male figure. That may demote the importance of independence and self sufficiency, that you should seek someone else to support, come to your aid, and solve your problems. However this movie along with Snow White, and Sleeping Beauty are older and part of the culture up to the 50s with picturesque suburbia and women homemakers. This would also come into play on a woman’s role in history, not to mention the courting habits that still today are used often to the absurd irony of everyone’s sense of feminism.

With Mulan, I didn’t see as much sexism directed at females, but more to the males – what you expect from them (brawn, muscle, machismo, fighting) and that weakness in any of these areas means that you aren’t a “real man.” There was a mark at the end where the main female protagonist uses logic to solve a problem where strength seemingly couldn’t. In either sense this is an improvement. Earlier women protagonists usually solved a problem or got something to go their way by using their sexuality, which was portrayed frequently in Disney films. This could also be interpreted that strength and physical competency doesn’t necessarily make you as effective as a well rounded sense of intelligence can; noting that both are important. However that seems to conflict with some of the statements in the movie, but I don’t have a clear sense of it, since I haven’t seen Mulan since its release.
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In response to rstegbauer At 09:50 pm RetroAesthetic Said :
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Sexism is everywhere if you poke at something small.

It's only up to us to buy the sexism or not.
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In response to RetroAesthetic At 09:41 pm rstegbauer Said :
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yeah but half of those were sexist on the video on lion king duh they are animals they fight for dominance.
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In response to rstegbauer At 09:37 pm RetroAesthetic Said :
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Rofl exactly. He doesn't even think of *why* the characters are like that.

I know it was supposed to be about male sexism but where was Cinderella and Snow White?

Cinderella always pisses me off. Cinderella was completely miserable on her own, and her only escape was to find a strong and handsome man to take care of her. Pure sexism.

Snow White was a bit sexist as well, because throughout the movie Snow White was easily frightened, weak, submissive, and very doll like; dainty, beautiful and fragile. She even liked cleaning. Lol.
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In response to RetroAesthetic At 09:34 pm rstegbauer Said :
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i've never seen snow white but i don't see how cinderella is sexist.
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