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Created: 03/06 03:31 pm
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My Bee: Life, Death and existentialism.
Today I had some strange thoughts about life, death, and the transition from the former to the later. It all started when I saw a bee at work. The office manager was there and she told me to kill it. I looked at her like I have done for years now when someone asks me to kill something, and said “no.” I don’t see a point in killing something I have no intentions on eating. (This is a thought I will be evaluating in this rant)
I told the manager that I would just catch the bee and let her go outside to go her way in peace. Then when I caught her I thought to myself, its cold outside the bee will just die if I put her out there. I wondered to myself what the difference would be had I just smash the bee or knowingly putting her in a position that would lead to death. Then I thought about who is it that justifies some killings and not others? Is there a will that does that? What would be the line in the sand for a murder?
I hold that to end a life, even a bug’s life, purely to satisfy my comfort is in itself absurd. Then I thought about what about food. It’s ok to kill something if it serves the purpose of sustaining my own life…Wait a second. How can I say it’s not ok to kill for comfort in one sentence and justify it in the next? If my logic continues so far then killing a person for the resources to buy food wouldn’t be wrong. Where is my logic failing me?
Anyway I thought I’d think this out a bunch later and brought my pet bee up to the office in the box I caught her in and left it on the counter. When I went back to get my pet bee I saw my friend Kim and was told that he killed my bee. I felt sad for my Bee and then I felt bad because it didn’t matter what I did for the bee when I met her…I still put her in a position that resulted in her death…then I felt good about the thoughts my bee gave me…then I felt bad because death is what life does for a living….anyway I was hoping the three wisemen would help me out with this. (Puma, Johnsmith88, and Heart) also I would like to here from Servant…..
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madmarcus At 01:16 pm
servantofall36
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I want to address what you wrote about love being opening yourself up even though you know you are giving someone the ability to hurt you and trusting that they will not. I think this is half right. I think that real love is self-sacrificial because it has to be. One must open up and be completely vulnerable to truly love. But, I think trusting the person you love to not hurt you is a falsity. Is it not better to recognise that they, being human, WILL hurt you somehow and not bother about it? The fact is people hurt the people they love. There will never come a time when this is not so. I think this is where bonds of love break down, especially in this society. Pie in the sky ideas like finding somone who will love you and never hurt you can never be realized. With love, the hurt can be obscene, the sense of betrayal heart-shattering. If one can look at love in the face and see that it is perfection, but still recognise that in the hands of fallible man it will be twisted and turned into a weapon at times, one is closer to the truth. Then, there is no fear in love, because the one receiving and giving it cannot be offended. The lines drawn in the sand are washed away with true understanding and mercy.
This just struck me, so I thought I might throw it out there. Though I never think I say these things clearly enough. :)
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At 11:02 pm
nandizzal
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so, if you wont kill a bee that you have no intentions of eating, would you kill a threat even if you had no intentions of eating said threat? I mean it boils down to kill or be killed and the natural selection theory. Its like this, that bee posed a threat. It was not your friend, contrary to how you felt about it. I guessing it said some nasty things to Kim behind your back resulting in Kim eliminating the bee. Also, If you want to look at the whole "Every living organism deserves life...unless I'm hungry" thing, here are a few of my thoughts. I think that there is a reason that some animals survive for centuries and others do not (insert natural selection here). There is also a reason that we (humans) are capable of reasoning and thought. So, I think this...
I do not think that you should blame yourself for the eventual dispatchment of the bee. I think that the bee entered into doom once it came across organisms higher on the food chain. The blamee: itself. I mean would you really expect to enter into a bear's den and expect them just to catch you and then release you? I know it is a bit different, thought process ability and all.
Let me say this, I think that we are carnivorous beasts (lol) and intend to stay at the top of the totem pole. To act as if you do not want that would be lying to yourselves. (ARE YOU READY TO GIVE UP YOUR COMPUTER? OR BETTER YET MACARONI AND CHEESE?) In addition, I am sure my logic has failed me also...faced with the same issue of to kill or not to kill the convenience store clerk for that slim jim. (this is only rhetorical, I do not intend to kill for slim jims) Ya know?
~Jordan~ 
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At 04:27 pm
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god this is getting really philosophical, good point though i suppose, it all links in to the meaning of life lol You could say bees have a purpose in making honey, then yet again the only reason we see them as having a purpose is because they provide honey for food, we are selfish and take advantage of this, so what do us humans do? how do we benefit the earth, we are selfish, everything we do is either just to better human kind or involves killing ourselves, if bees didn't produce honey they would be counted as a useless entity and people wouldn't value them as much, like wasps or something. Maybe we are worse than wasps, i mean we don't help the world like wasps, but do wasps destroy the world?
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